Chief Maku: This is Maku, Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle, Chief
of the Yamassee Native American Moors Of the Creek Nation, BIA
Registry Number 208 front slash 1999 that is when we registered
with the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Our Constitution of
Declaration of Indigenous Status has already been in existence
since 1992.Yeah. But they refer to me sometimes as Malachi and
even to insult me Dwight.
Interviewer: Yes. Umm, I would like too....
Chief Maku: Excuse me. I'm suffering from the flu, like so many
other inmates in here, they're suffering from the Flu and
they're not giving them proper medical attention. They're not
giving them anything for the Flu, they're giving them things
like Tylenol and they're requesting stuff. Inmates are really
walking around, some are spitting up blood and everything and
it's really totally; there's no medical Staff.
Interviewer: Do the Doctors administer the Medicine?
Chief Maku: No, they got Officers giving, they don't have no
Doctors giving out no Medicine here. They have officers coming
round giving out Medicine.
Interviewer: Do they have licensed Degrees to do that?
Chief Maku: I don't think they do, I don't think they have a
license, I can't say what they have in they're back pockets. I
don't see it, I don't see nothing on them.
Interviewer: Hmmm! So they never presented that.
Chief Maku: We don't a button inside the cell, once your locked
down, there's no way for you too get them to bring nothing by.
Unless you bang or scream up in here, and I've heard men bang
and scream all night. Coughing and choking and they didn't even
Interviewer: Hmmm. I want to get back into the reason why, why;
I guess it's such a threat that the Putnam County Officials and
things of that nature has things under going I guess since 1993.
Since the Yamassee relocated to they're rightful land. But what
is that, you've written over 400 books is that correct?
Chief Maku: Yeah, About 408 Books and I'm still writing.
Chief Maku: And I've solved many problems, I dove into facts;
nothing but facts. I'm not interest in opinions, I'm not
interested in faith, I'm not interest in beliefs. I talk about
religion, whether it's talking about Christianity, Judaism,
Islam, Buddhism, I don't care, I go into the facts of it. I've
done an intense study, traveled around the world, I'm fluent in
several languages and I've translated books; that's what I do.
They're so intimidated by the fact that, that; which i teach is
starting to spread like wild fire. It's bringing people to an
certain amount of conscience, the kind of conscience it does is:
the people in The Nuwaubian Organization as they call them, who
is "The Yamassee Native American Moors Of The Creek Nation" are
actually Doctors, Lawyers, Policeman, Fireman, Politicians,
Teachers, Ah, Lay persons, ah, Private Vendors, Restaurant
Owners, you know; Entertainers, Movie Stars, you know; you name
it. This is the fastest growing Organization, It's not racial,
It's not restricted to the black, as Sills and them would have
you believe. There's many different people in our Tribe, because
the Native American has mixed in with so many different people
in America; that we have different Nationalities have blended
So we have different levels, whether your pure whether you full
blood, half blood, whole blood, you could still be up under the
same banner of the tribe. So it's really a very racial thing
that they're doing, and they're afraid, petrified of what I
teach, and how well it's working to civilized people. In fact
the United States Government, wrote me a letter from the Federal
Institution asking me could they used my books in the federal
facility to help inmates. Certain books in particular dealing
with the Mind and the Potential, and I'm the man they're calling
a criminal, the man they wrote a letter too; which could be made
available for your office. Right?
They're letter is asking can they use my books, because the
books is so helpful to the inmates, cause I stop the inmates
from running around here trying to sneak and smoke, and I stop
them from vulgarity, I stop them from wanting to do all kind of
things, and it's making them want to study and start reading and
look forward to a better life and that's what they're afraid of.
Interviewer: Right, during the time period when they're alleging
that these crimes took place, how many Books were written during
that time period?
Chief Maku: I can't tell you, cause I never stop writing, you
would have to talk to people that work on the books with me. I
write books, like; I try to put my books, ah man; I can't even
tell you how many books. Cause I live my life, day and night I
work on books. And until when I pass out, I get up in the
morning, I start again; that's me. Interviewer: Right: Chief
Maku: Multiple Books.
Interviewer: Right. and so, this is known, because I know that
I've done research and I've seen the amount of books that just
come out during the 1993 period.
Interviewer: Of which moving to Georgia. Maku: Hmm huh.
Interviewer: So I guess being that, what is a Nuwaubian?
Chief Maku: Ah, I'm not going to ever define that word to
anybody, you know why? Cause that's the question I'm putting
before them. You keep referring to us as Nuwaubians, my question
to them is what is a Nuwaubian? And if you say a follower of
Malachi Z. York that's not a definition, what is a Nuwaubian?
Because if you call a Christian a follower of Christ, it's
because his name is Christ. So you can't Nuwaubian, follower of
Malachi, because they would be called Malachites, not Nuwaubians.
And now I'm not going to tell you'll what Nuwaubians means,
because one day i want to use that in court to say: you been
identifying us as a Cult, a semi religious cult, a fanatical
cult, and using the word Nuwaubian, and don't know whether your
spelling it with a B or a P, don't know what language it comes
from and don't know what it really means. You follow?
Interviewer: Hmm Huh. Chief Maku: Meanwhile, you keep throwing
it in the public, just to avoid using "The Yamassee Native
American Moors Of The Creek Nation", to identify that we are
Native Americans, Indigenous; the true people of this land. We
called this land Mu-land before he got here, or we called it
Turtle island, before the Europeans tribes came here and
infected it with they're disease of hate and racism and war and
drugs and pornography and all the things that they use against
us, that they brought here and established.
Interviewer: Ok, now are Nuwaubians are they limited to Georgia?
Chief Maku: No. No. There's Nuwaubians all over, if you go on
the Internet, you'll find Nuwaubians in London, you'll find
Nuwaubians in Holland, you'll find them in Africa, you'll find
them in India, you'll find them in the Caribbean's, you'll find
them in South America, you'll find Nuwaubians, everywhere of
every Nationally. No.
Interviewer: Ok, and all these individual has read over 408
books that your writing and still writing?
Chief Maku: Well, I assume they read some of them, those that
gotten involved, cause the books are not written under
Nuwaubians, the Books are written under The Yamassee Native
American Moors, or some books are written under the Masonic
Lodge, that I write for a different reason. All the books are
not written for Nuwaubians.
Interviewer: Ok, now with um, I heard about, I know the case was
moved to Brunswick Georgia?
Chief Maku: Yes.
Interviewer: And I know that the closing of the Court room issue
was because um, what I read is that "The Yamassee Native
American Moors Of The Creek Nation" were invited by "The
Brunswick Downtown Development Authority", to participate in the
Parade. What does that have to do with you, how does that have
anything to do with your Court Case?
Chief Maku: Well, what happen is The judge Royal Ashley, got
involved because he felted that that was tainting the
environment see he pick and chooses what taint means. Right?
They were invited down there as a Tribe of Native Americans, and
they clearly stated to the people there that under the umbrella
of our Native American Name "The Yamassee" there are different
Organizations within us, Like the Masons, The Eastern Stars, The
Shiners, The Al Mahdi Shrine Temple, The Egiptain Church of
Karast, The A.E.O. The Ancient Egiptian Order, The Orders of
Melchisedek, And different people, having they're own
Fraternities, that belong to our Tribe. And that's how it was
written up? When they got down there they saw all these people
in these Masonic Aprons, and this; you know and they was like
wait a minute: "you'll told us this". But there were Native
Americans, the tribe was represented there in the plan also, so
was the Egiptians and everything else. This scared them because
the public got the chance to see us in our true light, what we
really are, and not some fanatical cult; sitting around going
humba humba humba. You follow? And it scared them, so they jump
in and started saying they were going to file suits and they
lied, they implemented my name and classified me with the grinch
and I'm filing suit against them for that. And the Tribe is
filing suit against Brunswick, for stepping in; because we had a
deal with the city and the county step in where most of the
racism take place and the Mayor and the D.A. and we filed suit
against them, so they're trying to block that. So you had the
same Judge from Middle Georgia, step all the way down there to
Southern Georgia and try to get involved in that so they could
derailed it. But the positive, all they did is gave more
advertisement to Brunswick and now he still wants to carry the
trial down there, still pull the Jury out of that same area;
that he openly admitted himself was already spoiled. He's
totally violating all of my Constitutional rights and he's
violating all the laws and procedures that go with getting a
fair trial .
Interviewer: Ummm. Now in doing that, they've mentioned
something about some fliers being passed out and things of that
nature. And I also heard that, was Sheriff Howard Richard Sills,
Chief Maku: Yes. We found that Sheriff Howard Richard Sills, we
got pictures of him and his people. They had locate themselves
in over 250 miles, they jump over about thirty something other
Sheriff Departments, to be down there in so called undercover
clothes, right? They could of been the ones passing out the
fliers. And notice when I saw copies of the flier, under my name
and they had my age as eighteen something and seventeen
something. Nobody in my Tribe would of done that, cause they
know how important this is. Because I was born the year "The
Constitution of The United States" was established June 26,
1945, that's the year I was born and that's a very important
year, we knew what that meant. So we wouldn't have that, if you
look under the picture that I saw of me, somebody made a copy of
it, they paste it together and put it together and were
distributing it. That was all a part of Sills I believe, the
Judge working with him all of that there to cause this here
thing and close the Court down because they don't want the
public to hear this here Trial, they don't want the Public to
see this Trail. If I was such, if I thought I was such a evil
man, why would I want my trial public? Shouldn't I be trying to
hide this? As vaguer as that sounds, with all that stuff that
their saying, all that lust and all that sex, and all that
Racketeering. Would I want to have a open trial? Would I be
saying: "Great I glad they're having a private trial"? The fact
that I'm saying give me a open trial, I want the world to watch
this trial, tells you right there, that I want the public to see
it. And the fact that they don't tells you that they have
something they're trying to hide from ya'll.
Interviewer: Right. And I know that throughout this whole entire
time, um; the tribe The Yamassee American Moors Of The Creek
Nation, have always been there in your support whether they can
get in to the court room or whether they can't?
Chief Maku: That's Right.
interviewer: Now I've seen The Signs and the different protests
and actual peaceful protests.
Chief Maku: Right.
Interviewer: Stating they're first amendment right. how did the
Judge say that would effect during the trial?
Chief Maku: Ah, what the Judge is trying to imply is that the
Protest would influence the witnesses, when in actuality Dawn
Baskin, from the state case is responsible for putting the
witnesses names; and they're p o 2's in the Public. Had a copy
of a bogus plea on the Ebay, broadcasting it with everybody, all
these kids; I can't say kids cause they're not Children, that's
a fact. Let it be known that none of them are children, there's
nobody under age; with a child. No one under age ever reported
being pregnant or there's no one under age ever reported being
pregnant and having an Abortion while they was a part of our
Organization. But he's doing all that there to use a excuse to
derailed this case.
To keep it from hitting public, Monday is going to be a
freighting day for them, when they finish they're open
statements and they got to see the power and the amount of
energy and all the Lawyers we're bringing and entertainers. They
got to keep the public from knowing that, otherwise this case is
Interviewer: Hmmm. Now this whole entire case began because of
an anonymous letter, when was that?
Chief Maku: That was way back in 1997, by a Pauline Rogers, who
they don't want to use now because they found out that she had
already admitted. And came over to our side and did affidavit
video tapes telling the truth about how she was bribe, how they
offered her money; and different things they put up throughout
in Clark County. they hired her and Sakina Parham, was meeting
in a Library with the Constitution Journal; Bill Osinski and
everything like they setting these plots up. And now that she
has told the truth and don't want to use that, but the worse
thing about it is the fact that that letter was said if it made
me such a dangerous person would he read her 302's? Right. If it
made me such a dangerous person, Sills; let me roam the streets
from 1997 too 2002 and leave all these kids in that danger
because his statement was he didn't have enough evidence, by the
evidence he means he needs me to do more things. So basically he
said he need for him to do more things to children so I can get
a stronger case.
Chief Maku: But wouldn't that endanger the Children?
Chief Maku: So that shows right there, that's called reckless
endangerment. This man, he's the dangerous man and whoever works
with him on the case whether Julene Ward or Baskins, whoever
worked with him in that period of time; was saying it's alright
for this dangerous man to roam the street from 1997 to 2003. And
he's a endangering children, he's a pseudo pedophile, he does
this, he does that, he does that, but we're not going to arrest
him yet because we need to catch him doing things, so when we
catch him we can use that in court. They come up at the end and
we speak down there in court, Mr. Richard Moultie, stands up and
says we have no video tapes of Mr. York, doing anything with
anybody. Oh yeah we have a couple of Video's of him going in and
out of Red Lobster.
Interviewer: Hmm Huh. Chief Maku: Ok but
they never mentioned right before Red Lobster, we went into a
Bible Store and bought Bible, that's not what they want to tell
the public, they want cut off what they want. But there's
nothing of me doing nothing with anybody, there's no video tapes
of me doing anything, there's no pictures of me in any shape or
fashion. So if he's been doing this since 1997 and you'll wait
till 2003 how is that possible? If you didn't catch him in any
uncompromising situations in that period of time. How is that
Interviewer: And if I'm not mistaken they didn't find any DNA
evidence and the medical evidence to support they're case.
Chief Maku: They found no DNA evidence, they took pillows and
blankets and sheets and they have to admit there's no DNA. If I
was performing all these illicit acts on this pillow there would
be some DNA. All these doing, they found a stuff animal up the
hill with a phallic on it and said see; your saying that the
pedophile is using they're pillows, it wouldn't of been
discarded up on a hill, in some shed; it would be in my house in
Athens. Then they said they found films, which is suppose to be
cartoon animals in sex films; but then they have they're 302's
and they're so called lead witnesses say i use to watch him
destroy all his films. So if i destroyed all my films and you
watch me then who's film did you find in Athens in that little
closet or cubit that you say found it in?
Chief Maku: You follow what I'm saying? Interviewer: Yes.
Chief Maku: Who films was that? It had to be the only person
that would know to put something and where to put it at? Because
she was the one that was taking care 155 house and running the
business over and running the bank routes and everything along
with ah (Husna) Nicole Harden and another one called Chester,
they got rid of her they didn't need her no more.
Interviewer: Right. So basically with everything that's been
said and done they basically wanted to go forward with this
plea, to hurry the case, so they torture you.
Chief Maku: That's right. And then once you
basically realized the plot and the ploy and the fight for your
life and the torture and your family were more involved. Because
you had access to the phone and things of that nature, then it
began to set that Attorney Ed Garland; Was really behind this
Chief Maku: I felt he was a part of it, once I got a chance to
get to the media, a chance to get to a telephone, remember they
didn't let me get to a telephone to talk to my family for like
five minutes. In fact I couldn't say nothing but how you'll
doing, is the kids ok and all this? Blip. So, once I got a
chance to see that Kathy Johnson was out, you know; back on her
medication with conditions that degrading, deterring, which is
going to be a problem. And that Lampkin and Merrit was back out
and I was the only one that they was still torturing as long as
I was safe with that. And said now it's time for us to put up
our fight and get rid of these Lawyers and get on the ball and
bring the public eyes to this. and that's what they're trying to
block right now.
Interviewer: This is a very, this is a very tremendous case?
Chief Maku: Let's bring everybody in, let's bring The Black
Panther Party, let's bring the Black Muslims in, let's bring the
Hebrew Israelite in, let's bring in the NAACP, lets bring
Rainbow Push Coalition, let's bring G.A.B.E.O. let's put all on
the spot. And Let's bring in Sonny Purdue who on video tape said
he's going to address this situation.
Interviewer: Hmmm Chief Maku: And we have a
video tape of them saying don't let him off the hook.
Interviewer: Right. Chief Maku: Thank you.
Interviewer: So as an Indigenous person you are claiming your
Chief Maku: Claiming my Indigenous status as Native American.
That's right I'm claiming it, I want the world to know I'm a
Native American Yamassee. I'm the Chief of Yamassee Native
American Moors Of The Creek Nation, our lands extends from
Alabama, to the tips of North Carolina, all the way down in the
tips of Florida. And straight all across the Savanna's all the
Europeans or Europe they're not European, they're
euro-Americans, who are here need to go back home where they
belong. Because all they brought with them is a lot of trouble.
Our Drums began to play. And thus this tape momentarily stops to
continue in the Next Session which your about to Witness of our
Maku and a Female Interviewer.
Chief Maku: Hey.
Chief Maku: This Tape is On?
Interviewer: Yes It is.
Chief Maku: This tape is being made January 1, 2004 while still
incarcerated in Jones County Jail. Right? Awaiting to be
transferred to Brunswick to start trial on January the 5th.This
Is Maku Chief Black Thunderbird, Chief of the Yamassee Native
American Moors Of The Creek Nation, Registry Number with the
Bureau of Indian Affairs 208 front slash 1999.
Interviewer: Chief Black Thunderbird Eagle I have another
question for you?
Chief Maku: Um Huh.
Interviewer: The way the Media is talking about this case has
considerable changed, what is your position on that?
Chief Maku: If you really listen to it, you can see from way
back too May 5, when they went out in the public and they told
you in 2002 they got all these charges this man is a convicted
felon, he's a ex-rapist, and you know what I mean? He's a
pseudo-pedophiles and this and that and a cult leader. And a
such and sort and he pretends himself out to be God and all that
there. And then the charges jump into transporting minors across
the State line for sexual purposes and then all of sudden now a
Rico charge and ah Minor, that was not a minor at all. Right.
And all of it has been watered down and the public is not
hearing the drama that's been watered away and they're going to
have to front confront the response of the public with the
truth. They've now watered it down, and it's simple things like
child molestation charges and RICO charges. Mr. York will now be
charged with child molestation. What happened to all that drama,
and all the facts? What happened to the fact that they found
that I'm not a convicted felon and never was and had to return
the guns? What happened to those people? All of the different
things over this period of time has come to past, and has come
to be true, right. and all the lies that they perpetrated by the
media has come to be untrue why isn't the public not being told
that? Interviewer: Right.
Chief Maku: Continues: And that's why it's changing, and that's
why they watering it down now. Cause when it get into they're
court and it's black and white: it's going to come out well;
He's never been a convicted felon, he never raped anybody? He
never did this? He never did that? You know what I'm saying? He
didn't transport a minor across state line, he has no Rico
violation? What the heck is going on here? Then it's going to
become clear and right now these are the longest days in they're
life too. Just trying to figure out what they're going to do
between now and when this stuff gets public.
Interviewer: Right. Now I've notice in May 8, 2002 um they
basically denied you your presumption of innocence even without
Chief Maku: Judge Hicks, Magistrate of Middle District Georgia,
Interviewer: That's was May 13, of 2002 now he also put on the
record that one of the reason for your continued detention was
because you had a criminal record, but isn't it a fact that a
lawyer in New York sent some Information down?
Chief Maku: That's right a Lawyer that I had up there umm, I'm
trying to think of his name?
Interviewer: I believe it was, if I'm
right; Jonathan Marks.
Chief Maku: Jonathan Marks, Jonathan Marks
called down during the period of the court case; spoke directly
to Mr. Mannie Aurora, on the phone and cleared it up on the spot
that I was never a convicted felon.
Chief Maku: And that was suppose to be it
right there, I should of been able to make bond. But Mr.
Garland, working with them was not about to let me get on bond
cause they know if I would got on bond I would of been able to
work on the case.
Interviewer: Right. Now your bond, ever; the bond decision that
was denied was that ever appealed?
Chief Maku: No. It had ten days to be appeal and I asked Mr.
Garland why didn't he appealed it and he says well he knows
those old Crackers down in that little town and they're not
going to ever give you bond.
Interviewer: Hmm Now.
Chief Maku: He was taking it upon his
self as working with them.
Interviewer: Now I've done research on the other um child
molestation cases that have come up in the last five or six
years and the Catholic Priests and now even as recent as Michael
Jackson, he was given bond for 3 million dollars, now did they
the Attorneys Ed garland, ever explain to you why he did not
give you bond?
Chief Maku: No. He kept saying literally they're not going to
give you bond. In fact the Catholic Ministers are back on
Television last night about the same complaint and they said
they're not going to disclose any information about them because
it violates they're religious rites. They better be careful
calling us a religious organization because that'll become a
clause for this thing to go under covered? So no Garland was
never intended for me to get on bond after we said it in his
meeting repeatedly, they never intended to let me in the
streets. They put this whole thing up, in fact Judge Hicks,
actually got there and compared me to Jim Jones, a known
murderer and I think David Koresh, right in the open court. I
think you'll have a Jim Jones, or a David Koresh, in open Court
this is the Magistrate Judge, just took away our presumption of
Innocence right in front of everybody and Garland and them
didn't do nothing about it.
Interviewer: Hmm. Now that is the travesty, that is a definite
Chief Maku: That is the Justice that's going to be address, it's
going to be in the file pursuit, for ineffective Counsel; that's
being done against the Garland Firm.
Chief Maku: I'm going to stop blacks for wanting to go to that
firm and trusting them.
Interviewer: Right. Now you have there's also a Torture Civil
Suit out, um! I heard about that you
know looking at the news. What is your position on the Torture
Chief Maku: I want to let the Public to know that regardless of
how this trial goes I been tortured, I been treated inhumanely.
I filed it with Hague, I filed it with the International
Community in what is called Geneva, base on Record there. It's
on file there with a organization called NGO and I'm a honorary
member and my number is R900; Right. The Organization is the
Soul of the International League for Human Rights, we have
people there working. The Documents has already been filed, a
bunch of other things that is going on that the Judge and his
Clan of Friends don't have no idea it's going on; but the
international community. I been filing about the way I've been
tortured and treated inhumanely, how my constitutional rights is
taken away, how my right to a fair trial, my right to a speedy
trail was removed. Everything was removed, so they can precede
on with what they want to do. And they we're not going to
Interviewer: Right. Now Judge, dealing with judge, Judge Lawson
was recused from this case what? Distortion comes on the line,
it is not clear until question is rephrased .
Chief Maku: I beg Your Pardon?
Interviewer: What was the reason for Judge Lawson recussal he
was recused from this case, for some violations?
Chief Maku: Well, First of all I never understood what the P.S.I.
and stuff was. But what happen was the Judge was a part of
they're Clan so bad, he wanted to give me more time, by the time
he found out that I wasn't a convicted felon , the so called
numbers of the P.S.I. dropped. I might of got out, based on the
amount of time I had already served. Because when you served
time in a maximum confinement in the Fed's, most Lawyers can get
that double time. You follow? So that Year and a Half would of
turned out to be Three Years and so that based on the charges
and how far my P.S.I. Number went down, I would of been out. And
they saw that, so they said lets up with the part. But in the
process he gave himself away and it reflected. And they had a
private meeting and tried to figure out how to go up too 20
years, so they could guarantee I'll stay in prison. You follow?
And in doing that he violated a rule, called rule 11 which I
later found out, like I said before I didn't know nothing about
all this stuff until I got locked up and started getting a
chance to study this the last minute. He violated Rule 11 or
something, where the Judge is not suppose interfere with the
probation procedures or the P.S.I. procedures until after the
hearing. And then they had a private hearing and I wasn't there
and I should have been there physically. So Garland and them all
working together and started trying to protect themselves and
rearranged everything and went to staged and phases that we're
Interviewer: Now you sound very well learnt, in the Legal; as
far as your case is concern, what is the reason for that, the
Attorney's never came to see you and I know that some people
there as Inmates; they don't have access to the phone, or even
access to Family members, to help them out.
Chief Maku: That's right.
Interviewer: So how were you able to get the information you
have now about your case, if Attorney's weren't coming to see
Chief Maku: Well, what happen is I had a prison point, they gave
me access to a visit with my Daughters, right and they would
bring me information about my case. And it would be inside
religious document and they would say here's some religious
paperwork and they ok here so let me have it in manila
envelopes. And I would be able study it answer them and I
finally got the access to the phone which is very rarely, my
family will confirm this. And I get to blast out as much as I
can, and then I would talk to other inmates, that I finally got
a chance to be around. Cause at first I wasn't allowed to be
around anybody except the first couple of months, when I was
locked in the cell with all these Criminals, then they locked me
in a cell by myself. You know what I'm saying? So eventually I
started asking people questions, asking this here. People
starting helping, then Lawyers started coming on, people started
searching; My daughters went crazy out there trying to reach me
and get things out to me so they started calling people and
getting things done. My Sister was being manipulated by the
Garland and Lobe Firm, so she wouldn't really help. And so
that's how we got this far.
Interviewer: Hmmm. Now what and being in the Facility, of course
under the worse of conditions, but what have you experienced
about the legal and Criminal Justice Systems?
Chief Maku: It's amazing, they got a whole system set up now
just to locked people up. It's a whole game, that they're
putting people away by the 1000,000 thousand, whites and blacks.
They got two different falls: One is Crack for blacks and it's
amphetamines for Whites. right? And they're locking these people
away, 10, 20, 30 years. A boy 19, 20, years old by conspiracy.
Just on the fact that some person gets up and say yes that
person sold me that, no verification, no proof, no Videos, no
exchanges. Just some person saying it, yeah that guy did this
here, he sold me this here. And that person could be an out
right criminal making a deal with them called immunity, right?
For some charges that person did and that person will point the
finger out and have another person put in jail for 10, 15,
years; it's just that's easy.
Interviewer: Hmmm. Now what is your experience on like the
attorney's do? I mean what is your experience on visualizing
other inmates cases, basically with your own?
Chief Maku: I'm watching Inmates get destroyed in here, they're
destroying people lives by the hundreds. It's a racket, it's
like a manufacturing. Part of it is to take away they're right
to vote, because when they get a felon, when they become a Felon
they can't vote. They're trying to make sure that every young
black man is arrested, every Latino is arrested, every person of
color is arrested, with a felony. Regardless as to how small,
they can't be a vote problem, you follow? Then they get them
effected in the drugs they bring over here, I mean 90% of them
are drug dealers or drug user; that's the only way they can
survive. I mean they're just taking them through the system,
there's lies, set up's, it's an on going circle. I see people
commit suicide, hang themselves, people stabbing each other up,
I mean you know. It's gangs in here and they have they're
different signs and if you don't know the right signs, it's a
very sad situation. The devil created it.
Interviewer: Right. Ok now with the fact that um, I'm going back
to Attorney Ed Garland. Chief
Interviewer: Thought my thought. Um. Where he never visited you,
how many times would you say he visited you while you been
Chief Maku: Wow!!! I guess about three times. Interviewer: Three
Times in the matter of 2 years?
Chief Maku: During that whole period of time and most of that
was accompanied by somebody and he never say anything he had
them do all the talking.
Interviewer: Ok. And have any of these Facilities, allowed you
to get Legal Mail, otherwise from concerned people; that just
care about your case?
Chief Maku: No. They would block my Legal Mail, they would make
sure that I always got something from Ed Garland and them. Now I
realize, that; that was done through his Firm and he never
really said anything. So He never let anyone else in, they were
all; I realize now all these officer was working with him. So if
anybody else tried to let me get any Legal Mail, which I was
suppose to get Legal Mail from my Family, or any other Legal
Institution. Like the Presumption of Innocence Organization or
Foundation, they actually would open they're Legal Mail. And
they still to this day open your Legal Mail here and it tells
you by Law your not suppose too. So the only package I get
unopened is Garland Packages.
Interviewer: Um. Ok.
Chief Maku: It's a Racket, They're all working together.
Interviewer: Right. But as far as the whole continuous and
things of that nature, what was the Judge C. Ashley Royal
position on you?
Chief Maku: The Judge was doing everything is his power not to
give me a continuance cause he was afraid. He did not want a
continuance, because he knew that with a continuance; I have a
chance to work with some Attorney's for the first time. They
know that I'm articulate, if I can work with some Lawyers we
would of got this thing beat. He was trying to make sure these
new Lawyer's who by the way happened to be Native American, or
what they might call blacks, Right? Colored people. Right? Were
hindered. So I said I have a right to have a continuance, so I
would be able to work with the Lawyers, cause you said I was
getting evaluated because I would not cooperative with my
attorney's, that's your own statements. So now I'm saying here I
got attorney's and I'm ready to cooperate with them, give them
some time to get the case together; before we could rush. But
because he's from Brunswick, he had this thing set around New
Years, having a good time and going home, you follow? He just
totally ignored it, he said I'm going on anyway, I don't care if
they know it. We have to show him that this Country is not
govern my him, it's govern by laws and he just falls in it, he
not no Government.
interviewer: This is Definitely a battle.
Chief Maku: It's definitely a Battle, it's a war, it's another
Yamassee war, we had one in 1715.
Chief Maku: We're having another one Now.
Interviewer: You Will Persevere.
Chief Maku: We will Triumph, Wadu
Attorney Jonathan Marks and Judge C, Ashley
Royal sabotaging Malachi Z York's changes of judgment of
acquittal or new trial before it reason the court of appeal
judges this is illegal
Malachi York filed Pro-Se motion to reinstate the
trial motions that Jonathan Marks Sabotaged on August 13, 2004
when he withdraw Attorney Adrian Patrick's trial error motions
with no reason given to the court
Judge C Ashley Royal denying Malachi Z York Pro-Se
motion asking to reinstate Attorney Adrian Patrick's trial error
motion 1 New trial motion and Judgment for acquittal